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网上有传言说片场照上美队率领的新复仇者去非洲就是为了引出黑豹（更多内战消息见美队3专贴：http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3378094741?），黑豹是内战中的重要角色，他会站在美队一方，是克击史塔克的关键
感觉这传言就像是猜测，大家看看就好
其实黑豹在漫画里也不是没干过
感觉这传言就像是猜测，大家看看就好
其实黑豹在漫画里也不是没干过
转自橄榄的美队3专贴
剧透：下面应该是黑豹可能的出场方式
According to Heroic Hollywood, T’Challa will be searching for The Winter Soldier, Bucky Barnes. The reasons are still unknown. Bucky was a brainwashed Hydra assassin. Perhaps, now that the Winter Soldier has reemerged, T’Challa is looking for retribution for a past assassination. If that’s true, T’Challa’s father could have been the mark.
简单翻译
黑豹塔查拉在寻找冬日战士巴基巴恩斯时出现，原因仍不得而知。吧唧之前是被九头蛇洗脑的杀手。也许，现在冬日战士又出现了，塔查拉寻找他为报复过去的一次暗杀。如果这是真的，那塔查拉的父亲是死于冬兵之手...
剧透：下面应该是黑豹可能的出场方式
According to Heroic Hollywood, T’Challa will be searching for The Winter Soldier, Bucky Barnes. The reasons are still unknown. Bucky was a brainwashed Hydra assassin. Perhaps, now that the Winter Soldier has reemerged, T’Challa is looking for retribution for a past assassination. If that’s true, T’Challa’s father could have been the mark.
简单翻译
黑豹塔查拉在寻找冬日战士巴基巴恩斯时出现，原因仍不得而知。吧唧之前是被九头蛇洗脑的杀手。也许，现在冬日战士又出现了，塔查拉寻找他为报复过去的一次暗杀。如果这是真的，那塔查拉的父亲是死于冬兵之手...
本楼内容仅为传言
巴基将成为内战导火索，在之前的片场照的非洲大战里，黑豹也在寻找他，为了报杀父之仇
（关于这条见159楼）
Furthermore, it was recently reported that the Black Panther (Chadwick Boseman) will also be hunting down the Winter Soldier for reasons currently unknown, but Lainey Gossip adds that Crossbones also wants the Winter Soldier, or rather his "HYDRA pet," back under his control. The source then dropped this very intriguing nugget: "Civil War is a critical moment for Sebastian Stan and Bucky Barnes—he has to get everyone on his side by the end of this movie, because his role in the Marvel Cinematic Universe is about to get a lot bigger." Hmmm What do you think?
巴基将成为内战导火索，在之前的片场照的非洲大战里，黑豹也在寻找他，为了报杀父之仇
（关于这条见159楼）
Furthermore, it was recently reported that the Black Panther (Chadwick Boseman) will also be hunting down the Winter Soldier for reasons currently unknown, but Lainey Gossip adds that Crossbones also wants the Winter Soldier, or rather his "HYDRA pet," back under his control. The source then dropped this very intriguing nugget: "Civil War is a critical moment for Sebastian Stan and Bucky Barnes—he has to get everyone on his side by the end of this movie, because his role in the Marvel Cinematic Universe is about to get a lot bigger." Hmmm What do you think?
转自美队3专贴 @深红灰烬
演员Damion Poitier被目睹出现在《内战》的片场中 ，关于他的角色目前仍然未知，但有不少人猜测他的角色和瓦坎达，也就是黑豹有关。或许....他是黑豹的替身？
演员Damion Poitier被目睹出现在《内战》的片场中 ，关于他的角色目前仍然未知，但有不少人猜测他的角色和瓦坎达，也就是黑豹有关。或许....他是黑豹的替身？
转自美队3专贴 @没什么好说1
MoviePilot曝光马丁·弗瑞曼（自由叔）将会在《美国队长：内战》中出演Everett Ross，一位住职在瓦坎达的美国特工，专门跟N.S.A合作对国家发生的事务出决策。他同时会与S.H.E.I.L.D合作在国家内引入保安措施。
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MoviePilot曝光马丁·弗瑞曼（自由叔）将会在《美国队长：内战》中出演Everett Ross，一位住职在瓦坎达的美国特工，专门跟N.S.A合作对国家发生的事务出决策。他同时会与S.H.E.I.L.D合作在国家内引入保安措施。
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《复仇者联盟2》未采用场景3D设计图曝光（图比楼上全）
第一处是纽约之战后，政府在曼哈顿公园建立纪念碑，但在发布会上，奥创出现扰乱全局，这场放电影里一定很震撼。
而第二处是瓦坎达的高科技矿坑，也是瓦坎达在MCU中的首次亮相！复联在这里会有一场大战，黑豹也有可能出现，后来这些都被放弃了。（楼上发过）
第一处是纽约之战后，政府在曼哈顿公园建立纪念碑，但在发布会上，奥创出现扰乱全局，这场放电影里一定很震撼。
而第二处是瓦坎达的高科技矿坑，也是瓦坎达在MCU中的首次亮相！复联在这里会有一场大战，黑豹也有可能出现，后来这些都被放弃了。
（楼上发过）
转来外网的一篇长文
黑豹应当在第二阶段登场
为什么我们现在看不到这位瓦坎达的国王？
Basically, I have a few reasons why I feel the BP solo should have definitely been a Phase 2 movie. For one, it would've certainly been quite easier to bring T'Challa into Civil War, had he and Wakanda already been introduced.
I mean, it's just very peculiar to me how T'Challa may be involved in the conflict of Cap 3 given the circumstances. We're gonna see him fighting, BEFORE we've even seen Wakanda? Wakanda is an isolationist nation that won't hesistate to BEHEAD trespassers if they choose to. Will we witness T'Challa outside of Wakanda before it's introduced? Because that's very off to be honest. It's an isolated nation with an isolation-minded ruler and people, they don't really have a reason to deal with any foreigners because they don't care to. I know about the rumor of him hunting down Bucky...but I don't know about that either. I don't see a reason for him to hunt down Winter Soldier although I will say, my gut instinct tells me given the situation that'd be the best way out of all to include him in the story. But let's say they do give us some Wakanda in Cap 3, even if just a tease or cameo of the nation....to me that shouldn't come in a Captain America movie, esepcially since it's the very first time we're seeing it. And definitely not in a movie based on Marvel's Civil War event. Wakanda is such a huge concept and setting, a good amount of the focus of the script would have to be temporarily placed on that aspect just to involve T'Challa (assuming they would show Wakanda).
So if he had already had his solo in Phase 2, the isolationism would've been established. Fans would see the glory of the nation that is Wakanda, how powerful, inpenetrable it is, etc. THEN he meets Cap, whether that be in a mid/end credits for the BP movie itself, AOU, or at the very beginning of Civil War it doesn't matter. Then he becomes an Avenger like he did in the comics, then he's a puzzle piece to the Civil War story. Personally I'm just of the mindset giving characters their own movie before merging them into the ensembles is undoubtedly more efficient and the better formula. It allows part of their story to have already been told, their world has been presented, we know a lot about the character, etc. That's a big part of the beauty of what will be Civil War next year. We'll be watching a major conflict between characters we've seen develop over the course of several movies. Black Panther should've been more cemented in that regard. Instead, we have T'Challa's first appearance in a Captain America movie, with Hydra villains, the Civil War storyline (we haven't even seen Wakanda yet) and his debut solo doesn't come until 2018. It was SUPPOSED to be 2017 (don't even get me started on those damn Spider-Man pushbacks lol) but yeah, no Panther until 2018. That's long overdue is you ask me, especially for such a strong black lead, which me always need more of.
还有这俩的影响：
#1 : 2014's Guardians of the Galaxy Slot
Why Guardians? Look, I'm not one bit upset with what we ended up getting, because I liked GOTG a whole lot. But speaking from the perspective of BEFORE guardians was green-lit...this should've been there instead. I mean why did they go with such an obscure property over an essential and opportunistic character like Black Panther? Who is actually an Avenger, not to mention he would've added diversity at an earlier time, something Marvel has gotten light criticism for. Overall, I just feel Black Panther is more important.
#2 : 2015's Ant-Man
Normally, I'd be flat out outraged by the fact that freakin Ant-Man is coming before T'Challa, like seriously. But I actually in a sense understand why it is. Ant-Man was a project that was really supposed to be a phase ONE movie. Edgar Wright was working on that as far back as 2006? And Ant-Man (Pym) is an original Avenger...so THAT movie coming before king Wakanda is more reasonable. BUT, that being said...after Edgar Wright left, they really should've pushed the movie to Phase 3, and even before then...they should've postponed it to later plans. Ant-Man was delayed so many times that you could honestly make the case it should've been scrapped. They blew the opportunity for Wasp and Ant-Man in the Avengers long ago. And in this period that they realized Ant-man wasn't gonna release when they wanted to, Black Panther should have got the go-ahead. And this summer 2015 date would've been damn near perfect, last movie in Phase 2 RIGHT before Civil War too. You can't ask for much better than that.
Why do you guys ultimately think Marvel waited so long to go with a Black Panther movie? There were actually times when it was rumored one was indeed coming in Phase 2. My view personally is that maybe Marvel was hesistant to do a black lead because of the black enpowerment, potential racial concepts (especially if they hire Ava lol) that might be included in a BP film. I don't know that's just how I see it. Anyway, let me know you feel below.
Do you agree?
黑豹应当在第二阶段登场
为什么我们现在看不到这位瓦坎达的国王？
Basically, I have a few reasons why I feel the BP solo should have definitely been a Phase 2 movie. For one, it would've certainly been quite easier to bring T'Challa into Civil War, had he and Wakanda already been introduced.
I mean, it's just very peculiar to me how T'Challa may be involved in the conflict of Cap 3 given the circumstances. We're gonna see him fighting, BEFORE we've even seen Wakanda? Wakanda is an isolationist nation that won't hesistate to BEHEAD trespassers if they choose to. Will we witness T'Challa outside of Wakanda before it's introduced? Because that's very off to be honest. It's an isolated nation with an isolation-minded ruler and people, they don't really have a reason to deal with any foreigners because they don't care to. I know about the rumor of him hunting down Bucky...but I don't know about that either. I don't see a reason for him to hunt down Winter Soldier although I will say, my gut instinct tells me given the situation that'd be the best way out of all to include him in the story. But let's say they do give us some Wakanda in Cap 3, even if just a tease or cameo of the nation....to me that shouldn't come in a Captain America movie, esepcially since it's the very first time we're seeing it. And definitely not in a movie based on Marvel's Civil War event. Wakanda is such a huge concept and setting, a good amount of the focus of the script would have to be temporarily placed on that aspect just to involve T'Challa (assuming they would show Wakanda).
So if he had already had his solo in Phase 2, the isolationism would've been established. Fans would see the glory of the nation that is Wakanda, how powerful, inpenetrable it is, etc. THEN he meets Cap, whether that be in a mid/end credits for the BP movie itself, AOU, or at the very beginning of Civil War it doesn't matter. Then he becomes an Avenger like he did in the comics, then he's a puzzle piece to the Civil War story. Personally I'm just of the mindset giving characters their own movie before merging them into the ensembles is undoubtedly more efficient and the better formula. It allows part of their story to have already been told, their world has been presented, we know a lot about the character, etc. That's a big part of the beauty of what will be Civil War next year. We'll be watching a major conflict between characters we've seen develop over the course of several movies. Black Panther should've been more cemented in that regard. Instead, we have T'Challa's first appearance in a Captain America movie, with Hydra villains, the Civil War storyline (we haven't even seen Wakanda yet) and his debut solo doesn't come until 2018. It was SUPPOSED to be 2017 (don't even get me started on those damn Spider-Man pushbacks lol) but yeah, no Panther until 2018. That's long overdue is you ask me, especially for such a strong black lead, which me always need more of.
还有这俩的影响：
#1 : 2014's Guardians of the Galaxy Slot
Why Guardians? Look, I'm not one bit upset with what we ended up getting, because I liked GOTG a whole lot. But speaking from the perspective of BEFORE guardians was green-lit...this should've been there instead. I mean why did they go with such an obscure property over an essential and opportunistic character like Black Panther? Who is actually an Avenger, not to mention he would've added diversity at an earlier time, something Marvel has gotten light criticism for. Overall, I just feel Black Panther is more important.
#2 : 2015's Ant-Man
Normally, I'd be flat out outraged by the fact that freakin Ant-Man is coming before T'Challa, like seriously. But I actually in a sense understand why it is. Ant-Man was a project that was really supposed to be a phase ONE movie. Edgar Wright was working on that as far back as 2006? And Ant-Man (Pym) is an original Avenger...so THAT movie coming before king Wakanda is more reasonable. BUT, that being said...after Edgar Wright left, they really should've pushed the movie to Phase 3, and even before then...they should've postponed it to later plans. Ant-Man was delayed so many times that you could honestly make the case it should've been scrapped. They blew the opportunity for Wasp and Ant-Man in the Avengers long ago. And in this period that they realized Ant-man wasn't gonna release when they wanted to, Black Panther should have got the go-ahead. And this summer 2015 date would've been damn near perfect, last movie in Phase 2 RIGHT before Civil War too. You can't ask for much better than that.
Why do you guys ultimately think Marvel waited so long to go with a Black Panther movie? There were actually times when it was rumored one was indeed coming in Phase 2. My view personally is that maybe Marvel was hesistant to do a black lead because of the black enpowerment, potential racial concepts (especially if they hire Ava lol) that might be included in a BP film. I don't know that's just how I see it. Anyway, let me know you feel below.
Do you agree?
火星一楼 之前忘发了
前段时间，又有传言说马丁·弗瑞曼在《美国队长3》中扮演的是英国首相 Edward Chase。据称在复联2中，在奥创及快银兄妹两拜访安迪·瑟金斯前，安迪正在看着手机屏幕，屏幕上的联系人写着“Minister”（首相）。这位英国首相可能想将振金掠往英国。也就是说，这一角色有可能是反派。
前段时间，又有传言说马丁·弗瑞曼在《美国队长3》中扮演的是英国首相 Edward Chase。据称在复联2中，在奥创及快银兄妹两拜访安迪·瑟金斯前，安迪正在看着手机屏幕，屏幕上的联系人写着“Minister”（首相）。这位英国首相可能想将振金掠往英国。也就是说，这一角色有可能是反派。
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一则关于美队3中黑豹的传言，可信度未知：
We'll start with Black Panther. According to the site, T'Challa will actually side with Tony Stark initially, though his loyalties may shift as the story progresses. This obviously places him in direct conflict with Captain America, and the two ultimately come to blows. As expected, Panther's costume is "shrouded in Vibranium", and during his battle with Rogers we'll see him "scratching Cap's shield easily and his prowess will prove to be a viable threat." We can also expect to see a "sleek Panther jet of some type," which apparently looks very "Stark-like."
简单翻译：
黑豹将会站在托尼的队伍，可能会随着故事发展变化，黑豹制服将是振金制成，也可能会看到黑豹的战斗机
看来又是一个展现黑科技的时候了
一则关于美队3中黑豹的传言，可信度未知：
We'll start with Black Panther. According to the site, T'Challa will actually side with Tony Stark initially, though his loyalties may shift as the story progresses. This obviously places him in direct conflict with Captain America, and the two ultimately come to blows. As expected, Panther's costume is "shrouded in Vibranium", and during his battle with Rogers we'll see him "scratching Cap's shield easily and his prowess will prove to be a viable threat." We can also expect to see a "sleek Panther jet of some type," which apparently looks very "Stark-like."
简单翻译：
黑豹将会站在托尼的队伍，可能会随着故事发展变化，黑豹制服将是振金制成，也可能会看到黑豹的战斗机
看来又是一个展现黑科技的时候了
美队3饭制预告 黑豹出现