【求助】关于塔多巴的一些信息

16年底的马卡苏,鼻头已出现黑斑,但总体仍然粉嫩,5岁这样


楼主 9VDUX  发布于 2019-03-30 00:44:00 +0800 CST  
Forwarded Message in Whatsapp Tadoba Wildlife Groups.

Tadoba Tigers are numbered now!

Sonam - T30
Maya - T12
Botezari female - T11
Devdoha female - T8
Aswalhira female - T9
Ambepat female - T18

Vaghdoha male - T38
Yeda Anna male - T39
Shivaji - T40
Rantalodhi male - T41
Gabbar - T42
Katezari male - T43
Navegaon male - T45
Namdeo - T47
Bajrang - T49
Tara - T7
Pandu male - T54(即马塔卡
Madhuri - T10
Vanarchuva female -T20
Bhanuskhindi female - T17

楼主 9VDUX  发布于 2019-03-30 00:47:00 +0800 CST  
I have created a more detailed and in depth list of Tadoba tigers, kindly correct me where I am wrong, have taken your previous inputs as well, wherever I have put question marks I am unsure:

Tadoba tiger directory:

1. Ookhan (is he the same as v7, if yes lineage can be ascertained), lineage unknown, location Brahmapuri forest division
2. Ginaji/kali (is he the same as the new navegaon male), lineage son of Namdev and Nakkati tigress, location navegaon and Tadoba
3. Junabai, lineage unknown, location Madnapur buffer kolara range
4. Maya, t13, lineage daughter of nira/bhala and w male, location Tadoba and paundharpauni
5. Choti Tara, lineage unknown, Tadoba and mohurli range
6. Matkasur, lineage son of jamunjhora female and katezari male, location Tadoba
7. Chota matkasur, lineage son of Matkasur and Choti Tara, location Tadoba
8. Bajrang T-49, lineage unknown, location Mohurli-Telia Lake
9. Wagdoh/Scarface t 38, lineage unknown, location Mamla buffer/non tourism zone (uncertain),
10. Wagdoh female/kori, lineage unknown, status deceased
11. Aswalhira female T-9 lineage daughter of chichghat female and wagdoh, location unknown, status unknown
12. Ambehpat female t 18, lineage unknown, location unknown, status unknown
13. Botezari female T-11, lineage unknown, location unknown, status unknown
14. Sonam T-30, one of the Telia sisters, lineage daughter of Wagdoh and Madhuri, location Telia Lake territory Mohurli
15. Mona, one of the Telia sisters, lineage daughter of Wagdoh and Madhuri, location unknown
16. Lara, one of the Telia sisters, lineage daughter of Wagdoh and Madhuri, location junona buffer
17.Geeta, one of the Telia sisters, lineage daughter of Wagdoh and Madhuri, location unknown
18.Rantalodhi male T-41, lineage unknown, location unknown
19.Gabbar T-42, lineage unknown, location unknown
20.Rocket, lineage sub adult cub of Sonam and Bajrang, location Telia Lake
21. V6, lineage son crooked tail and Vasanti, brother of v7, location unknown
22. V5 Nira/Bhala

楼主 9VDUX  发布于 2019-04-09 14:54:00 +0800 CST  
22. V5 Nira/Bhala, daughter of Vasanti and crooked tail, mother of Maya and imli female, ex Paundherpauni tigress, died of snake bite
23. Imli female, lineage daughter of crooked tail and Vasanti/Laxmi, location unknown
24. V4 female/Sonia, lineage daughter of vasanti, location unknown, status unknown
25. Vasant Bhandara male, lineage unknown, status unknown
26. Jharni tigress, lineage unknown, location navegaon/alijanja buffer
27. Sharmili tigress, lineage unknown, location agarzari buffer
28. Sharmili 2 tigress, lineage unknown, location unknown
29. Madhuri, lineage daughter of Laxmi, mother of Telia sisters, location agarzari buffer, ex Telia lake tigress
30. Katezari male/Amitabh/Tyson ,T-43, lineage unknown, location unknown
31. Katezari female/Malika/V3, lineage daughter of Vasanti, location unknown, status deceased
32. Shivanzari female, lineage unknown, location unknown
33. Shivanzari male, lineage unknown, location seen trespassing in matkasurs territory in tadoba range
34. Shivaji T-40, lineage unknown, location outside park
35. Shiva, lineage son of wagdoh, location kolsa range
36. Namdev/saturn T-47, lineage unknown, location unknown
37. Chota namdev (same as new navegaon male ?), lineage son of Namdev, location unknown
38. Narsimha, lineage unknown, location Tadoba range and buffer
39. Hilltop male, lineage unknown, status deceased
40. Khali, lineage unknown, location agarzari buffer
41. Choti Madhu, lineage unknown, location agarzari buffer

楼主 9VDUX  发布于 2019-04-09 14:55:00 +0800 CST  
42. Devdoh female T-8, lineage unknown, location Mohurli
43. Devdoh female junior (unconfirmed existence), lineage daughter of Devdoh female T-8, location unknown
44. Devdoh male, lineage unknown, location unknown
45. Tara T-7, lineage unknown, mother of Choti Tara, location unknown
46. New navegaon male T-45 (possibly same as Ginaji/Kali), lineage unknown , location navegaon buffer
47. Banaskandi female, lineage unknown, location slight overlap around Maya's territory in tadoba-paundherpauni
48. Sitara, lineage daughter of Choti Tara, location unknown
49. Vanarchuva female, lineage unknown, location unknown
50. Pandu male T-54, lineage unknown, location unknown
51. Vasanti/Vasant Bhandara female, lineage unknown, mother of V3 to V6, grandmother of Maya, status deceased
52. Crooked Tail/Yeda Anna T-39, lineage unknown, status deceased
53. Bison Bandhera female, lineage unknown, location unknown
54. Sonia V4, lineage daughter of Vasanti, location unknown, status unknown
55. Chitra/Kakadghat tigress, lineage unknown, location unknown status unknown
56. Rajani, lineage daughter of Chitra and Shivaji, location unknown
57. Shina, lineage daughter of Chitra and Shivaji, location unknown
58. Suraj, son of Chitra and Shivaji, location unknown
59. Panghat kuti female, lineage unknown, location unknown
60. Hirdi nalla female, lineage unknown, location unknown
61. Chichghat Tigress, lineage unknown, location unknown
62. CG3, lineage son of chichghat and wagdoh, location unknown
63. Savari, lineage daughter of wagdoh and Kori, location unknown
64. Hirai female, lineage daughter of wagdoh and kori, location unknown
65. Sher Khan MA-7, lineage unknown, brother of Ranbir, location unknown
66. Rambhir MA-4, lineage unknown, brother of Sher Khan, location unknown
67. Ian bodhi tigress/Laxmi, lineage unknown, mother of Madhuri (unconfirmed) ?, Status deceased ?
68. Raja male, lineage unknown, mate of Vasanti, grandfather of Maya (unconfirmed), status deceased ?
69. Jamanbodu mal

楼主 9VDUX  发布于 2019-04-09 14:55:00 +0800 CST  
69. Jamanbodu male, lineage unknown, status unknown
70. Sin V3, lineage daughter of Vasanti, location unknown
71. Gauri, lineage daughter of Laxmi, location unknown
72. Ranbir, lineage son of Laxmi, location unknown
73. W male, lineage unknown, Maya's father, location unknown
74. Lata, lineage daughter of Nira and W Male, sister of Maya, location unknown
75. Chaya, lineage daughter of Nira and W Male, sister of Maya, location unknown
76. Rago, lineage son of Nira and W Male, brother or Maya, location unknown
77. Nakkati tigress, lineage unknown, location unknown
78. Kankajhari male, lineage unknown, location kolsa range
79. Jamunjhora female, lineage unknown, location unknown, mother of matkasur (to be confirmed ) ?
80. Bijli female, lineage unknown, location unknown
81. Ambateera female, lineage unknown, location unknown

楼主 9VDUX  发布于 2019-04-09 14:55:00 +0800 CST  
It looks good, few things need to be corrected. also Bajrang has a wide range and his presence in the buffer zone is also significant. In fact he’s got the biggest territory out of any male present in Tadoba. i’ll see if i get time on my hand, i’ll help. there is another young male in Mamla buffer along side Wagdoh male and the new male that was seen in Navegaon was indeed Kali aka Ginaji himself.

- Kori is not deceased, she’s one of Bajrang’s mate.
- Choti Madhu is the daughter of Khali and Madhuri.
- Kankajhari rules Kolara zone 2 or Kolara buffer, Madnapur and parts of tourism zone.
- Jharni is Wagdoh and Kori’s daughter.

楼主 9VDUX  发布于 2019-04-09 14:58:00 +0800 CST  
Good Info...
Ookhan & Choti Tara are Sired by Tara and Yeda Anna Belongs to Circuit Family
I Think maya is daughter of Nira and Hilltop Male

楼主 9VDUX  发布于 2019-04-09 14:58:00 +0800 CST  
Amitabh/Katezari - no sightings in the last three years
Wagdoh - Mamla buffer
Katezari female - deceased
Junabai female - Kolara buffer with Kankajhari male and cubs
Jharni female - Navegaon/Alijanja buffer
devdoh female - still in devdoh area
Shiva - kolsa range
Shivaji - No sightings of him
Ookhan - Brahmapuri forest division
Gabbar - was tracked by WII and was seen moving outside of the park few years ago, no sightings since then.
Bobdya male - got beat up by the new Navegaon male, hasn’t been seen in a few years.
Lara female - Junona buffer
Geeta female - no sightings
Mona female - no sightings
Namdev/Saturn - no sightings in the last three years

楼主 9VDUX  发布于 2019-04-09 15:06:00 +0800 CST  
Hello,
Can somebody help ascertain and provide information with regards, to the current tiger locations in Tadoba (focusing on certain prominent ones):

As of now
1. Maya Paundherpauni
2. Maktasur Tadoba
3. Choti Tara Tadoba
4. Bajrang Mohurli/Telia
5. Sonam Telia

Agarzari buffer:
1. Sharmili
2. Madhuri
3. Khali
4. Choti Madhu

Current status of Shera/Chota Matkasur (what news about his fights with Matkasur)

What about Amitabh, wagodh (apparently back in tourism zone), katezari male, katezari female, junabai female, jharni, devdoh female, Shiva, Shivaji, ookhan, Gabbar, Bobdya male, sub adults cubs from kolsa of Shivaji, Mona, lara, Geeta, Namdev/saturn

楼主 9VDUX  发布于 2019-04-09 15:09:00 +0800 CST  
最后做出了总结

楼主 9VDUX  发布于 2019-04-09 15:09:00 +0800 CST  
hello friends,


Below is the status as what I know . I was at Tadoba last season. But going there end of march again. Tiger dynamics keeps on changing though


Maya Tadoba range -Paundherpauni
Maktasur Tadoba range
chota matka - Tadoba range
Choti Tara Tadoba range
Narsimha male - Tadoba range and buffer
Bajrang Mohurli range
Sonam mohurli range
Rocket male - Mohurli range
Devdoh tigress - mohurli and tadoba range border
Junior devdoh tigress - mohurli and tadoba range border

Agarzari buffer:

1. Sharmili
2. Madhuri
3. Khali
4. Choti Madhu

Junona/ devada buffer

Lara tigress

Kolara/madnapur buffer

Kankazari male
Junabai tigress


below are Current status of as I know. I may be inaccurate though

Shera/Chota Matkasur (what news about his fights with Matkasur) - HE IS VERY MUCH INSIDE CORE. TRYING TO DISLODGE FATHER
Amitabh - SAME AS KATEZARI MALE. HE MUST BE SOMEWHERE AS VASNAT BANDHARA AREA WAS CLOSED FOR TOURISM SINCE 2015
wagodh (apparently back in tourism zone), - NOT SURE , IF THE NEWS IS TRUE. I WATCHED HIM 3 YEARS BACK IN DEVADA BUFFER . HE WAS OLD. NOW HE MUST BE 16 YEARS OLD
katezari male, - AS ABOVE
katezari female, - MUST BE SOMEWHERE AS VASNAT BANDHARA AREA WAS CLOSED FOR TOURISM SINCE 2015
junabai female, - VERY MUCH THERE IN MANDAPUR
jharni, - VERY MUCH THERE. HE HAS NEW LITTER
Devdoh female, - MUST BE AROUND. SIGHTED RARELY
Shiva, - VERY MUCH THERE . RECENT PHOTOS SHOW HE IS IN KOLSA
Shivaji, - DISAPPEARED LONH BACK TO OUT SIDE PARK
ookhan, - HE WAS SEEN I GHODEZARI AREA
Gabbar, - NOT SURE
Bobdya male,
sub adults cubs from kolsa of Shivaji, - KOLSA MALES ARE VERY ELUSIVE BUT THEY ARE THERE IN NON-TOURISM AREA
Mona, - NOT SEEN ON LAST 3 YEARS
lara, - VERY MUCH AT JUNONA BUFFER WITH CUBS
Geeta, - NOT SEEN ON LAST 3 YEARS
Namdev/Saturn - - NOT SEEN ON LAST 3 YEARS

楼主 9VDUX  发布于 2019-04-09 15:10:00 +0800 CST  
Gabbar – The Unreasonable Death of Mighty Tiger.
Ambe Patli is a small water logging area and part of Kala Amba in Tadoba Tiger Reserve. Tourists visiting this part of Tadoba could smell a stench for couple of days. On the morning of 10th May 2008 Neelkanth (Guide) decided to have a look. Lurking behind a lantana bush Neelkanth peeked at the dead animal. He was shocked to find a tiger lying in small pool of water. Having collected courage he threw couple of stones to make sure the tiger would move. There was no response from the tiger. Assured and bit confused over why the tiger would not move Neelkanth walked couple of steps out from behind bush to find a body of the said tiger crammed with maggots. What he could not comprehend was the tiger was none other but Gabbar…the mighty tiger of Tadoba.
Later investigation and autopsy of Gabbar said that he died due to starvation. But a wound on his front left paw was pointed out. A second autopsy report said that he died due to severe wound to his front paw caused due to fight with another tiger. Close inspection of paw showed that such wound could not have been possible in a fight. The other fact was, no other visible wound on his body was found which should have been there if there was a fight between two tigers. His left front paw had been dislocated from the joint with an odd shape. It pointed out to have caused by a metal trap like a crossed saw. Gabbar undoubtedly was a case of poaching which forest dept. managed cover. Later it was heard Neelkanth was rewarded for finding Gabbar dead with suspension for days.


楼主 9VDUX  发布于 2019-04-22 00:44:00 +0800 CST  
楼上的信息来自一篇13年的旧贴,显然那里的gabber并不是指leopardface。

楼主 9VDUX  发布于 2019-04-22 00:48:00 +0800 CST  
虽然现在我们仅通过社交媒体就能把塔多巴的事态大体摸清,但对于几年前大胖的时代,除少数几个明星虎以外,其他虎的讯息就十分难以获得了。而再往前推至大胖父亲的时代,不要说是厘清虎的生平,就算是追查血缘、对应名字都是很困难的事情。

楼主 9VDUX  发布于 2019-04-22 00:56:00 +0800 CST  
但不懈翻找的楼主终于找到了拼好远古事情碎片的关键节点,就是上面说的雄虎(old)gabber的死。

楼主 9VDUX  发布于 2019-04-22 00:59:00 +0800 CST  
首先这里说gabber死于2008年,那么他肯定不是hilltop male,因为hilltop 至少还坚挺到破尾巴被大胖挤压、circuit被迫离家的时候,他死在塔多巴大战前夜。另外,对于gabber的死,另一个版本的说法是被jabber杀死,jabber是谁?是sultan,也就是boom,和hilltop male在差不多的时候死亡/隐退、使得塔多巴区中部空出来的那位,同时,他也被称为 gaur singh,意思是 爱哺食白肢的虎,这个称号在大胖的消息比较多的时候(不会早于2014年)曾经在吧里被提到过。
同样的,也有old sultan was killed by his son new sultan的说法,这不久与jabber,son of gabber相对应,也与刚刚说到的gabber之死合上了,这么说,gabber/old sultan、jabber/new sultan/boom、hilltop male是不同的虎,而他们中的一位就是大胖的父亲,这样结果就很明显了,死去的这个gabber,很大可能正是wagdoh的爹。

楼主 9VDUX  发布于 2019-04-22 01:22:00 +0800 CST  
脸肿了

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Boom (Old Katezari male)
Boom was one of the most dominant male tigers of his time. His territory covered the whole northwestern part of Tadoba range. Having successfully mated and produced several litters, his only competition came with a equally large, but somewhat younger male arrived on the scene, the Hilltop male.
Reserve: Tadoba Andhari, Maharashtra
Age: 23 years old (veteran)
Name Meaning: He regularly made booming calls
Code: F0
First seen: Unknown
Gender: Male
Notable marks: Slightly gouged right eye
He controlled a very large prey rich area in the north western part of Tadoba which comprised many of its undulating hill and beautiful valleys. A very large and powerful tiger known to vertically drag large Sambar deers up rock surfaces into some of the rock strewn hills of Bhanuskhindi. Boom was often seen resting in the caves in the hill sides of Bhanuskhindi as well as the reeds of the Dauna nullah.

He was called Boom because he used to vocalise quite often as he patrolled his territory, a lot of times grumbling at alert Sambar deer warning each other of his presence. H
Boom grew up in Tadoba at a time when there were fewer tigers in Tadoba and eventually ended his life at Ambepath nullah.
这里几乎可以肯定boom就是gabber了,并且与old katezari male=old gabber相符

楼主 9VDUX  发布于 2019-04-22 01:33:00 +0800 CST  
但wf的说法截然不同
Yeda Anna was a contemporary of old Katezhari (or Boom male), Hilltop male, and Jabbar (who ousted the old Sultan; I am not sure if this is the same Jabbar that mated much later with Nira - mother of Maya, at Tadoba range. Coincidentally, Sultan was also called Gabbar, but he's different from the new Gabbar or the Leopard-Face).

楼主 9VDUX  发布于 2019-04-22 01:34:00 +0800 CST  
搞不清了

楼主 9VDUX  发布于 2019-04-22 01:43:00 +0800 CST  

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