《黑暗帝国》是最可能被新电影T出正史的也是最可能电影化的EU吧?

最近Latino Review报道一个未经官方证实的消息,银河帝国开国皇帝帕尔帕廷有可能在《星球大战:第七部》里以阴魂之类的形式回归——当然这事相当程度上是照顾帕尔帕廷演员想回归新电影。



这消息一报,天朝立即各种不靠谱的渣翻译混合脑残编辑曲解消息乱传。


当然这个消息即使被完全确定,更可能是改了帕尔帕廷的阴魂已经不可能回归的设定,不过……

仔细想下,《黑暗帝国》似乎既是最可能被新电影T出正史的EU,同时也是最可能被新电影改编下直接电影化的EU吧?




想《黑暗帝国》在《西斯的复仇》结束后彻底成为一部争议作品:

这部90年代出去出版的漫画卖得多,二十年下来一直不断出各种新包装新封面的版本圈钱,而且总有人买。
卖得多同时被骂得也多,不少人很不喜欢帕尔帕廷阴魂转移克隆体,复活重生的再临银河的设定。


而且卢卡斯虽然当年给漫画编剧出主意把帕尔帕廷复活,但时过境迁《西斯的复仇》完结后,也很不喜欢这漫画对“天选之子”预言的打脸。



当然……其实也没准是:

卢卡斯给阿纳金·天行者设计那“天选之子”的预言,根本就是模仿自《黑暗帝国》里关于卢克、莱娅、阿纳金·索洛三人,战胜武力远远过胜电影时期的《黑暗帝国》版复生皇帝的预言。

模仿完后卢卡斯在1999年开始出版的《新绝地武士团》十九部曲小说里,截了杰森·索洛的便当,转手塞阿纳金·索洛。
让阿纳金·索洛这个卢卡斯自己都承认原预定命运与原预期剧情太像自己同名外祖父——后来(按作品出版时间算)电影里阿纳金·天行者——的,可能是天行者一脉中潜力最强大的一个还未成年就领了便当

把自己对《黑暗帝国》的模仿证据给“毁尸灭迹”?





后来卢卡斯虽然没真的动手把《黑暗帝国》给T出正史,但也宣称自己心目中帕尔帕廷没复活。

弄得官方为防哪天老卢真动手,在官方作品里屡次设计出现多个角色怀疑,真正的帕尔帕廷其实在恩多战役已经彻底灰飞湮灭。
《黑暗帝国》里那只是个拥有本体帕尔帕廷的记忆、原力比本体更强大、自以为是本体灵魂转移的克隆体。

不过幸运的是真到老卢把星战交给迪宝宝,也没真动手在作品里否掉帕尔帕廷阴魂转移克隆体复活的设定,所以官方的后手备案也一直没真用上。





好了,上面说了这么多有点跑题了,说下我觉得《黑暗帝国》做为最可能被新电影T出正史的EU,同时也是最可能被新电影改编下直接电影化的EU的原因吧。



首先,帕尔帕廷复活的话,介绍BOSS崛起经历要方便容易的多。
设定其他BOSS,无论是电影原创的还是引进EU角色,都要费很大力气在电影里交代BOSS的成长历程。
反而直接让帕尔帕廷复活,不但省了很大介绍BOSS崛起的力气,而且很容易抓住星战观众——不管是资深星战迷还是了解主要局限于电影等影视作品那部分观众——的目光。



其次,《黑暗帝国》的剧情与节奏,其实非常适合电影化。
虽然在前传上映后,《黑暗帝国》因为复生帕尔帕廷那种拳大无脑,压迫感几乎全依靠自己比电影时爆增的黑暗面原力与超级武器象颇受诟病。但是毫无疑问的,即使有这类缺陷也无法否认《黑暗帝国》的剧情本身非常精彩。

而且似乎很对J.J拍片的路子 = = ?
一个强大的BOSS,一堆超级武器和强大的军力,然后激烈的战争……
(好吧,J.J拍的东西我看的不多)

而且卢克跟复生帕尔帕廷的直接对决,我想很容易抓住主要局限于电影等影视作品那部分观众的目光吧?

而且更重要的是,《黑暗帝国》那种进展节奏非常适合电影化。
《索龙三部曲》这种神作级小说虽好,但其节奏我一直觉得电影化非常不合适,反而在有足够资金保障的情况下做美剧很好。




至于电影化的两个严重问题:


1.卢克扮演者的年龄……

这个其实改下作品时间段就可以,想前传电影都直接大幅度改变了按正传设定里克隆人战争的发生时间。
(不明白这话的人,请去看原版EP6里阿纳金英灵的扮演者年龄)
再想下被官方各种T出正史又补救变回正史《赏金猎人的传说》……

我觉得别过于指望官方绝对尊重时间线还是了,连前传都没尊重正传对克隆人战争时间的设定





2.老卢不喜欢……


问题只要帕尔帕廷在新电影里出现,不管是阴魂形式还是直接复活老卢都不会喜欢

如果帕尔帕廷演员回归新电影,难道要他演帕尔帕廷的西斯全息仪守门人 = = ?

楼主 仲夏梅蒂尔之幻  发布于 2013-08-17 10:03:00 +0800 CST  
《黑暗帝国》里关于 卢克莱娅和阿纳金·索洛,击败武力远远胜过电影时期的《黑暗帝国》版帕尔帕廷 的那个千年绝地预言





"A brother and sister, born to walk the sky. But reckless brother falls into Dark Side's eye. Jedi sister carries hope for future in her womb. Only she can save her brother from a certain doom.

A Jedi killer wants to tame her. Now the Dark Side comes to claim her. She must join with her brother to combat this thief, Before the Jedi come to grief."



(文字我是直接引用广播剧版《黑暗帝国》)







在《黑暗帝国》时期,卢卡斯应该还没有天选之子预言想法,否则他根本不会让《黑暗帝国》复活帕尔帕廷。

所以《黑暗帝国》这千年预言,显然应该是出现在阿纳金·天行者的天选之子预言构想出现之前。

楼主 仲夏梅蒂尔之幻  发布于 2013-08-17 10:09:00 +0800 CST  
在《新绝地武士团》十九部曲系列1998年的策划时期里,阿纳金·索洛被卢卡斯本人亲自赠送了便当,死于《Star By Star》一书中。

原因是卢卡斯认为《新绝地武士团》给阿纳金·索洛设计的后续剧情,跟即将推出的前传电影里的阿纳金·天行者相似度高了些。

卢卡斯认为在这俩系列的俩主角已经同名的情况下,还出现这种情况不合适。
于是卢卡斯本人把原本要发给杰森·索洛的便当截下,追手赠与阿纳金·索洛:


Shelly Shapiro, one of the chief architects of The New Jedi OrderDark Horse Comics, which had been contracted to publish Star Wars comics since 1991,conceived of the idea of an "Invasion" storyline rocking the galaxy, and began to plant the seeds of the eventual story by introducing the character of Nom Anor, who appeared as an advance agent of what would eventually become the invading forces in the first issue of Crimson Empire II: Council of Blood, released in November 1998.Following the conception of Anor's character, planning meetings were held at Skywalker Ranch to discuss what would eventually become The New Jedi Order. Attendants at the meetings included Lucas Licensing Executive Editor Sue Rostoni, Del Rey Editor at Large Shelly Shapiro, Lucasfilm Director of Publishing Lucy Autrey Wilson, Dark Horse Vice President of Publishing Randy Stradley,and several of the authors who were already onboard,including Michael A. Stackpole,James Luceno,and several comic book authors.Stradley suggested the invasion idea, and it quickly became the premise of the series. The invaders were conceived of as being dark Force-users.

楼主 仲夏梅蒂尔之幻  发布于 2013-08-17 10:10:00 +0800 CST  
As many of the novels published under Bantam Spectra had dealt with the New Republic's continuing war against the Empire, it was decided to introduce a newer, larger, and meaner threat. Shapiro had often heard fans complain that nothing significant happened to any primary character in the novels published by Bantam, and that the galaxy far, far away had grown too safe for the heroes, preventing any serious drama from occurring. In the NJO's initial planning sessions, ideas were brainstormed concerning what kind of crisis the characters would face, and everyone present agreed that it was necessary to shake things up by killing a previously "invincible" character. The death of Luke Skywalker was proposed, but the idea was vetoed by George Lucas himself; Lucas also indicated that C-3PO and R2-D2 were off-limits. It was felt that killing Han Solo, Princess Leia, or Lando Calrissian would not have the dramatic impact that the planning team was looking for, which prompted Stradley to suggest Chewbacca, who, despite being a fan-favorite character, had rarely significantly contributed to a novel's plot; Stradley referred to him as the "quintessential supporting character." It was felt that the death of a previously untouchable character would give the series its needed emotional impact, but putting Chewbacca on the chopping block was not an easy decision on the part of the creative team, causing many tears to be shed.Once the final decision was made, Chewbacca's death was approved by George Lucas.



Randy Stradley initially conceived of an "Invasion" storyline, and later suggested that Chewbacca be killed.It was also decided during the initial planning stages that a new generation of characters would play a large part in the series.The role of the older generation would remain as important, however—Shapiro indicated that one of the stimuli for the series had been that Bantam authors had been unable to develop Han Solo's character. As such, the two generations would star and develop in tandem. At the time, the twin offspring of Han and Leia, Jacen and Jaina Solo, were being developed as Jedi-in-training within the pages of the Young Jedi Knights young reader books,and the youngest Solo child, Anakin, had recently starred in his own young reader books, the Junior Jedi Knights series.Anakin was slated to be the hero of the NJO, and it was decided that Jacen would die midway through its run. However, Lucas stepped in again, worried that Anakin's heroic story would too closely parallel the story of his grandfather, Anakin Skywalker,which was to be told in the forthcoming Star Wars prequel trilogy.Thus, the roles of the Solo brothers were swapped.

Lucas also dictated that the villains could not be Force-users, and, at that point, ceased his involvement with the series. The planning team then constructed a rough outline of the plot direction of the NJO, and began to choose more authors, some of whom were suggested by Shapiro, and some by Lucas Licensing and subsequently approved by her. The planning team had a general idea of how the series would end, but intended the NJO to be an organic and adaptive series, open to new directions and not carved in stone.James Luceno began to write a "series bible" that would coordinate all of the story arcs and function as a database for new characters and continuity. A continuity team was formed that included Luceno and Daniel Wallace,who expanded the galaxy map and began keeping track of new Jedi introduced in the series. They encouraged authors to re-use Jedi in later books rather than inventing new ones. Throughout the series' run, Lucasfilm Ltd. supervised the NJO's production much more closely than they had the Bantam-issued novels.

The series' villains were eventually developed into the Yuuzhan Vong, an extra-galactic race of religious zealots bent on conquering the galaxy. The name "Yuuzhan Vong" was derived from a French-Thai restaurant in New York City where several members of the planning team were eating. A peace treaty with the remnants of the Empire, and the seeds of an alien invasion plotline, were laid in 1998's Vision of the Future, a novel by Timothy Zahn published under Bantam's contract.



楼主 仲夏梅蒂尔之幻  发布于 2013-08-17 10:11:00 +0800 CST  
LUKE: It is the Emperor!

ARTOO: BLATTS IN DISGUST.

LUKE: (strangely insistent) NO, Artoo, leave it on! (voice trailing off) I...want....to listen......

Sound: A low humming echoes through the next line, as if the Dark Side itself was audible.

EMPEROR: The Book of Anger, Chapter One.....




…………




EMPEROR: And I have come to realize that the Dark Side is my only ally. The Dark Side is the only means to power.

ARTOO: BEEPS UNEASILY.

LUKE: Be quiet, Artoo,I-I don't care about the time. But could you do something about the heat? I suddenly feel....cold.........

ARTOO: TRIES TO COMPLY.

EMPEROR: My explorations of the Dark Side of the Force have revealed to me many wonderful secrets.

LUKE: (growing weak) Cold.....like a dead hand pressing against my heart......

EMPEROR: I have learned that anger and will, when joined together, forge a most unholy and devastating alliance.

LUKE: Maybe Artoo's right.....time to leave......but it's like a great weight, pressing down on me.....I....can't move.....can't.....leave.....

EMPEROR: Using anger, I have learned to unlock the hidden reserviors of the glorious Dark Side power.

LUKE: No.....

EMPEROR: Anger, concentrated by will, in the vital center of the body, creates a portal through which vast energies are released--the energies of the Dark Side of the Force. This is the power I command now that I am one with the Dark Side.

LUKE: Is this....what my father felt?

EMPEROR: With these energies, I have slain my enemies from across the empty reaches of space.

LUKE: I shouldn't.....listen....

EMPEROR: I have created lightning, and unleashed devastating fires.

LUKE:......but I can't.....stop......

EMPEROR: With this knowledge, I can unleash the Dark Side energies around us, even to shatter the fabric of space itself! In this way, I have created storms.....

Sound: New and louder humming as Luke calls upon the Force.

LUKE: Got--to--break---FREE!!!

Sound: Luke crashes against the floor. The holoprojector suddenly cuts out.

ARTOO: BEEPS IN ALARM.

LUKE: I'm all right, Artoo. This place is strong with the Dark Side. And the presence of the Emperor.....even in a hologram....is almost overpowering. I've got to resist the temptation to study these tapes. Still......










《黑暗帝国》广播剧版比漫画版增加的剧情


29岁左右的卢克在遇到阴魂转移克隆体复活的帕尔帕廷前,先看到帕尔帕廷留下的《愤怒之书》。
结果《黑暗帝国》里这本《愤怒之书》对29岁卢克的黑暗面压迫感,就远胜当年电影结局的皇帝本人……


好吧,大概是与复生帕尔帕廷的联系,增强了《愤怒之书》上携带的黑暗面原力

而29岁的卢克虽然远比电影结局强大,承受黑暗面压力的能力远胜当年,但随着原力的增强对黑暗面压力也远比当年敏感

外加当年电影结局的皇帝本人大部分精力被战斗冥想分散……

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